d300 a portret

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nie mam zajętego miejsca na profile, więc to na pewno nie jest przyczyna, zwyczajnie aparat twierdzi, że na karcie nie ma żadnego profilu poza NOPami. rozumiem, że sam profil Fuji pobrać z http://www.neebu.net/~khuon/photography/NIKON/CUSTOMPC/ ( Fuji_Velvia.NCP -> PICCON03.NCP)?

[Kistek]

Musisz dokładnie utworzyć folder NIKON tak jak pisałem wyżęj z takimi nazwami ściągnięty plik ma nazwę Fuji_Velvia zmień go na PICCON01.NCP, robiąc inaczej właśnie aparat nie widzi tych profili , oczywiście przy wgraniu kolejnego nazwa musi być inna

[Witusch]

Ja po prostu wrzucilem to wszystko http://www.neebu.net/~khuon/photography/NIKON/CUSTOMPC/ na karte CF (przez czytnik) i wgralem przez menu aparatu (cos z "zapisz profile") i dziala bez problemow.

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próbuję nadal wg ww. instrukcji i nadal nic, czy miałby ktoś czas i chęć podesłać mi na [email protected] spakowany folder NIKON czy CUSTOMPC z Velvią gotową do wgrania bo sam już nie wiem w czym problem...

[Ewci@]

postregiment - Nie wiem czy na pocieszenie dodam że u mnie velvia też nie wchodzi aparat nie widzi na karcie nic a robie wg schematu z folderem Nikon - czyli jest tak jak u ciebie , moja prosba - jak ci sie uda napisz jak to zrobiłeś , a może w tych najnowszych D300 coś jest w oprogramowaniu , ze plików NCP nie czyta ? . Ja D300 kupiłam miesiac temu ... ale stawiam bardziej na to, że sie po prostu na tym nie znam

[triandafilos]

Trochę zebranych przeze mnie różnych informacji z netu, jak wgrywać m.in. rózne krzywe Picture Control:

"How to load a custom Picture Control?
First, you DO NOT need Capture NX to do this. What I have outlined starts with NX simply because that is what I am using. The key is getting the Picture Control Utility started. Following is a procedure that I have worked out, and tested, for loading a Custom Picture Control into the D300 in what I hope will be much more clearly defined than Nikon's very limited mention of this feature. BTW, because Picture Controls contain the Tone Curve this is also how a custom Tone Curve can be loaded to the D300. Basically you choose a predefined Picture Control, load your custom Tone Curve into the predefined Picture Control and create a NEW picture Control containing that curve. You'll also have to have at least one NEF file to load in Capture to enable access to the Picture Control utility. For those using View, or starting the utility direct with a shortcut, just skip past the sections pertaining to Capture NX.

Start NX and load your test NEF. Then in the right panel double click on Base Adjustments, then double click on Camera Adjustments, then double click on Picture Control. At this point a dialog window will open. In that window near the top you will see the word "UNCHANGED" with a down arrow at the right. Click on UNCHANGED and a list of the Picture Controls will come up. BTW, the D2x modes are included in that list so there really isn't any need to download the files from Nikon. Now, you just pick a different Picture Control and watch the effect on your image, which may take a minute or two on a computer with limited resources.

You can also use NX to export a Picture Control for use in your camera. First, you have to create a folder named "Nikon" on the CF card for your D300 (make sure it's formatted for the camera) and have that card connected to the computer. BTW, you can connect the camera and go thru that, however if you have a card reader that is a much easier way to do it. Within that Picture Control dialog, below the -2 for the Quick Adjust slider, there is a box with an asterisk at the lower right corner. Push that box and a new menu will come up. Select Launch Picture Control Utility and the utility will open. Now go down the list and find the control that you most like and click on it. If it happens to be identified as (predefined) the Export button will be grayed out. There is a workaround for that. Push on the NEW button at the lower right in the utility and rename that predefined file with a new name. You'll then see that new name pop up in the Picture Control list and by selecting that, the EXPORT function will be enabled. Now you can export that new Picture Control to the CF card you have plugged in. BTW, that Picture Control Utility is also how you load, or tweak up, custom Tone Curves for the D300, they are saved within your new Picture Control.

Now to the camera. Take that CF card from the computer, with it's new "Nikon" folder containing your new Picture Control and plug it into the camera. Turn on the camera, push the Menu button, select the shooting menu, then Manage Picture Control, then Load/Save, then select your new Picture Control, save it to the camera (and rename it if you wish), push OK as required, and you have the new Picture Control loaded in the camera for use. Then all you have to do is go to Select Picture Control and choose the Picture Control you want to use.

PS, you should probably cut and paste this message to your hard drive because a lot of this is NOT covered in the manual for NX, the D300, or within the help system for NX. I had to work it out with help from this forum and by going on easter egg hunts. What i have tried to do here is just boil down what I learned from weeks of reading this forum into one compact message.

Note that the D2xMODEs (M1, M2, M3), Portrait (PT) and Landscape (LS) are considered Optional Picture Controls and not Custom Picture Controls. The D300 supports three different kinds of Picture Controls.

[0] (Stock/Built-in) Picture Controls: Standard (SD), Neutral (NL), Vivid (VI) and Monochrome (MC). These are immutable. They can neither be deleted nor renamed. They are considered Base Picture Controls.

[1] Optional Picture Controls: Currently these are D2XMODE1 (M1), D2XMODE2 (M2), D2XMODE3 (M3), Portrait (PT) and Landscape (LS). These can be added into four available slots. They can also be deleted but they cannot be renamed. Interestingly enough, PT seems to be based off SD according to the camera but the Picture Control Utility claims it to be it's own predefined base. These are also considered Base Picture Controls. These files are NOP files.

[2] Custom Picture Controls: C1-C9. These can be overwritten with anything you want. You may create these from any Base Picture Controls. These files are NCP files.

One thing to note about Optional Picture Controls. Since they can be deleted, if you have created a Custom Picture Control based on an Optional Picture Control and have deleted the Optional Picture Control that was the base, your Custom Picture Control will no longer be usable. It will show up as greyed out in the Picture Control Settings menu.

One way to create a Custom Picture Control is to take an Optional Picture Control and then re-save it as Custom. But in this case, I don't see how that's possible if the base [PT] Portrait doesn't exist. See what I said about base Picture Control dependencies. The only thing I can think of is that since [PT] Portrait is (according to the D300) based off [SD] Standard, one could take the Picture Control Settings from [PT] Portrait, copy them as adjustments to [SD] Standard and then save them as a Custom Picture Control. This would create their own version of Portrait but would likely not be the same as the Optional Picture Control [PT] Portrait since the tone-curve would probably still be different.

I suppose one method is to save and reload tone-curves. You can save an existing tone-curve from the Picture Control Utility. I'm not certain how this would work out but the procedure would be as follows:

[0] Install the [PT] Portrait Picture Control onto your computer so it can be used by Capture NX, View NX and the Picture Control Utility.

[1] Launch the PCU and select the [PT] Portrait as if you were going to create a new Picture Control based off [PT] Portrait..

[2] Select Manual Adjust.which will allow you to specify a custom tone curve.

[3] Select Custom Curve which will expose the Save button.

[4] Save the tone curve to something like Portrait.ntc.

[5] Select [SD] Standard. PCU will warn you about unsaved changes and ask you if you want to save the changes. Click "No".

[6] Change the sharpening from 3 to 2 which seems to be the only base adjustment in [PT] Portrait that differs from [ST] Standard besides possibly the tone-curve.

[7] Select Manual Adjust.

[8] Select Use Custom Curve.

[9] Load the previously saved tone-curve (Potrait.ntc).

[10] Click on New and save it as a Custom Picture Control called Portrait.

[11] Select Portrait (not [PT] Portrait) from the Stored Picture Controls. You will be given the same unsaved changes warning. Click No.

[12] Make sure you either have your camera attached via USB or you have a CF reader/writer attached with a card inserted and then click Export.

[13] Save Portrait to a Custom Picture Control slot on the card.

[14] Load the Portrait Custom Picture Control Profile onto the camera as per the standard procedure.

Again, I'm not sure this will produce the desired results. I will have to do some investigating. If that actually works then you can essentially recreate [PT] Portrait as a Custom Picture Control and would not need to load the [PT] Portrait as an Optional Picture Control into the camera thus freeing up a slot for all the D2xMODEs and [LS] Landscape.

Try renaming the extention of D300__LS.NOP to D300__LS.NCP and put it in the CUSTOMPC folder.

Okay. I just attempted my above procedure and compared the results between the same reference NEF file using [SD] Standard, [PT] Portrait and my own custom Portrait based off [SD] Standard and modified with the sharpening setting and tone-curve from [PT] Portrait. I conclude that none of the tone curves match.

[0] The tone curve of [SD] Standard and [PT] Portrait differ with [PT] Portrait being less contrasty.

[1] My procedure to attempt to transfer the tone-curve of [PT] Portrait into a new Custom Picture Control based off [SD] Standard did not work. My Portrait profile's tone curve differs from [PT] Portrait.

I also tried the same procedure I outlined above and instead used Neutral as my base for my Custom Picture Control. This also did not pan out. The tone curves are different. I suspect that extracting the tone curve out of an existing Base Picture Control (be it built-in or Optional) is not possible and that I was simply applying a flat/linear curve each time.

So in conclusion, if you want to have the exact Picture Control results as obtained with [PT] Portrait, you will need to sacrifice an Optional Picture Control slot and load [PT] Portrait.
Quick summary:

(on the CF card)

NOP files go to /NIKON
NCP files go to /NIKON/CUSTOMPC

You don't name the file with "NIKON/CUSTOMPC". You must create a NIKON folder on the CF card. Then create a CUSTOMPC

folder inside the NIKON folder. Then place the NCP files in CUSTOMPC. Place the NOP files in NIKON (alongside CUSTOMPC)."

Poza tym zajrzyjcie, proszę tutaj: http://www.clcarder.com/Tutorials/Ni...tructions.html - znakomita instrukcja obrazkowa wgrywania profili Picture Control

Aha! Zapomniałem dodać, że sam oczywiście skorzystałem z tej instrukcji i wszystko działa bez problemu. Tutaj można pobrać dodatkowe profle Picture Controle do D300; http://www.clcarder.com/Cameras/Niko...0.html#Picture Controls

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dzięki Kistek za podesłanie profilu, gdyby ktoś był w podobnej sytuacji wrzuciłem na stronkę dokładnie tak spakowany profil jaki zadziałał u mnie www.marekrzepka.com/NIKON.zip

Ogólnie jeszcze tylko bierze mnie na przemyślenia względem d300, że faktycznie bardzo udany model, dający pełną kontrolę nad zdjęciem. Jedyna moja krytyczna uwaga bierze się z faktu sam nie wiem jak to określić - lekkiego bluru, czy lekkiej nieostrości (bez względu na to jakiego szkła używam) i bez wyostrzania ciężko mówić o tym aby z puszki wyleciało naprawdę oooostre zdjęcie, a szkoda, wielka szkoda.

[Witusch]

dzięki Kistek za podesłanie profilu, gdyby ktoś był w podobnej sytuacji wrzuciłem na stronkę dokładnie tak spakowany profil jaki zadziałał u mnie www.marekrzepka.com/NIKON.zip

Ogólnie jeszcze tylko bierze mnie na przemyślenia względem d300, że faktycznie bardzo udany model, dający pełną kontrolę nad zdjęciem. Jedyna moja krytyczna uwaga bierze się z faktu sam nie wiem jak to określić - lekkiego bluru, czy lekkiej nieostrości (bez względu na to jakiego szkła używam) i bez wyostrzania ciężko mówić o tym aby z puszki wyleciało naprawdę oooostre zdjęcie, a szkoda, wielka szkoda.

Nawet jak nastawisz ostrzenie na +6? Oczywiscie kazdy ma inne kryteria ostrosci, ale mnie takie ustawienie zadowala, ostrzej wygladaloby nienaturalnie. Jak robie NEF-y na Fuji Velvia, a w tym profilu ostrosc jest na +6, to wlasciwie nic wiecej nie musze zmieniac, czasem troche rozjasnic, ale ostrzyc to juz bardzo rzadko. Przyklad SIGMA 50-150 F 4 Fuji Velvia i tylko zapisane jako jpg i zmniejszone:

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nie no nie mówię, że nieostrości są jakieś duże, ale tutaj przykład - http://marekrzepka.com/fashion/images/paulina.jpg warunki dla AF fakt faktem trudne (kołyszące wokół trawy), w puszce wyostrzanie na 0, ale bez wyostrzania samej twarzy w PSie zdjęcie dużo traciłoby na swojej wartości...nie wiem właściwie co powinenem zrobić, byłem w Wawie to podrzuciłem puszkę ze szkłem 50 1.4 na Podstępu niby kalibracja komputerowa, ale szału nie wiem...nie wiem czy jest sens z użerać się z nimi...jedyne co mnie boli to fakt, że takie nawet drobne problemy z ostrością skutecznie odbierają mi przyjemność z focenia.

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Jak masz wyostrzanie na 0, to w d300 zawsze bedziesz mial nieostre jpegi. To tak jakbys w d80 na -3 nastawil Ta puszka w swoim zalozeniu ma NEF-y i obrobke w kompie. Wiadomo, ze ostrzenie selektywne na ostatnim etapie obrobki daje najlepsze efekty, jak chcesz miec na szybko, to +6 w puszce. Tu masz kolejny przyklad, Nikkor 85/1.8 na F2.8 i znow fuji Velvia (+6) i dalej nic nie kombinowane, pytam sie po co mi ostrzej? Ale moze ja sie nie znam...